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Rooster 198 posts "More housing for Iola!!" Mar-08-08, 11:33 AM (CST) Iola Industries helps Iola once again!! Two separate articles in the local rag talk about building more houses in Iola. One stated 15 rental units and the other stated 30 units with rent in the price range of $375. Location for 15 units was stated as being built on 80 acres of ground south of Russell Stover Candies plant and the other for 30 units south of the plant. There isn't 80 acres of ground left on the tract of ground south of the plant but Iola Industries does own 80 acres of ground directly west of the plant. Maybe the direction is in error or they are building on both sites. Makes no difference where the housing is as long as we have more affordable housing available. Now if you want to say "THANK YOU" to a group of people that have accomplished much to help all the residents of Iola, you can "THANK" Iola Industries for all they have done for Iola over the years. Their names are listed in the paper!! Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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Subject     Author     Message Date     ID    RE: More housing for Iola!! countrytime Mar-08-08 1    RE: More housing for Iola!! ksulovingurl Mar-09-08 2        RE: More housing for Iola!! Carter Mar-24-08 3            RE: More housing for Iola!! Rooster Mar-25-08 11                RE: More housing for Iola!! Carter Mar-26-08 12                    RE: More housing for Iola!! FavoredBabe Mar-27-08 13                        RE: More housing for Iola!! Carter Mar-30-08 15                            RE: More housing for Iola!! FavoredBabe Apr-03-08 16                                RE: More housing for Iola!! jhawk Apr-04-08 19                                    RE: More housing for Iola!! timmy Apr-06-08 20                                RE: More housing for Iola!! Carter Apr-03-08 17                                    RE: More housing for Iola!! FavoredBabe Apr-04-08 18            RE: More housing for Iola!! FavoredBabe Mar-25-08 8                RE: More housing for Iola!! countrytime Mar-25-08 9            RE: More housing for Iola!! countrytime Mar-24-08 4                RE: More housing for Iola!! Carter Mar-25-08 10                RE: More housing for Iola!! FavoredBabe Mar-24-08 5                    RE: More housing for Iola!! countrytime Mar-25-08 6                        RE: More housing for Iola!! FavoredBabe Mar-25-08 7                            RE: More housing for Iola!! countrytime Mar-27-08 14

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countrytime 114 posts 1. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Mar-08-08, 01:31 PM (CST) Absolutely. Though I do not need the housing nor do I know anyone who does. I am not afraid to say "Thank You" to the people who are responsible for contributing to a better life for others. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

ksulovingurl 14 posts 2. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Mar-09-08, 06:18 AM (CST) Here I'll be the first, I'm sure some of them read these nice little forums we have. So Thank You. Job well done. Now see, that wasn't so hard. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Carter 46 posts 3. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Mar-24-08, 05:41 PM (CST) Yes, folks, Iola is getting more housing but (as usual) there's a catch. For those folks who lived in South Iola, who barely could afford rent, couldn't work (I want to be nice!) because of a disability or other reason, or don't have a credit rating...they are just SOL. So, who's going to live in these houses when you have to make $10 to $16 an hour, have a credit rating, time on the job, or rental history. I know there are people that fit the 3 out of 4 qualifications but those that really need the homes probably won't be getting the help AGAIN! Are these houses for people who were just in the flood or anyone in Iola? If they are for anyone in Iola, then wouldn't it be defeating the purpose of building new houses for the folks who didn't have insurance and couldn't afford it since they may be working a minimum wage job, don't have a credit history (because they can't afford anything) or have a rental history because housing is so outrageous around here that they have to be on welfare to begin with. It isn't easy living on a minimum wage income, trying to rent, buy a vehicle and pay for utilities....blah, blah, blah. Come on guys, I know you want to say something. Been there, done that. Ok, one more scenario then I'll shut up: Maybe I'm 65 getting ready to retire from my minimum wage job, and the house I am living in is a p.o.s. I want to move to one of those new houses. Can I? Probably not, since I'm not making nice wages, no credit history....GET IT? Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Rooster 198 posts 11. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Mar-25-08, 06:53 PM (CST) According to the article at http://www.iolaregister.com/Archives/News/Stories/2008/March/Housing%20ills%20eased.html the housing is being built for any person that wants it. This article http://www.iolaregister.com/Archives/News/Stories/2008/March/Rezoning%20for%20homes%20endorsed.html states the housing is being built for any person that meets the qualifications to buy. Hourly wage between $10 and $16 an hour will probably exempt the majority of people currently employed in Allen County. Which could make this new housing worthless to the people that need it most! The last article also raises some doubt on the housing because of the objections of Lonnie Larson. While there are already 3 houses south of the plant along with some cattle I've never witnessed a tractor/trailer on the road south of the plant but have seen some farm equipment going up and down the road. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Carter 46 posts 12. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Mar-26-08, 06:04 PM (CST) YIPPIE!! Rooster got the point - no one can afford them, those who already have a house probably aren't going to buy a new one because of the payments and requirements. So, we'll see in the next 2 years (if they are built) who will buy them or if they'll sit empty. Of course, if you watched Field of Dreams they had the saying "if you build it, they will come". Remember, this isn't Iowa folks, it's Allen County, KS. Who knows, what will happen. Anyone want to try their ESP on this one? Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

FavoredBabe 38 posts 13. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Mar-27-08, 07:24 AM (CST) if there is a more negative, whinier forum on the web I havent found it. i realize you may see this as a challenge and try to locate one to post here to prove me wrong, but dont bother. if there is one i dont want to visit it. most of the people who post here are so hung up on how poor everyone is and how terrible the city is and how inadequate anyones help is that it is a wonder you can drag yourselves out of bed to face another day. okay, so suppose you are right and this housing is the wrong way to go. what are YOU doing to make a difference (complaining about what everyone else is trying to do doesnt count)? you post your criticism day after day but i dont see what you are doing to personally try to help. it is easy to criticize and complain, but not so easy to really change things. yeah on second though it is better if you just sit and complain. that way you only infect each other. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Carter 46 posts 15. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Mar-30-08, 07:32 PM (CST) If you don't like this forum - stay off of it...what are YOU doing to help people? As to our whining about how poor people are here, why don't you tell me what person in Allen Co. is rich and maybe I'll go knock on their door and ask for a handout. No one is saying that building new houses is wrong. All we're saying is most people can't afford them. More power to you if you can. I also pointed out, if you read all the postings that there were at least 30 to 40 houses for sale in Iola with a price tag of $30,000 to over $100,000. If there are that many houses for sale in Iola (and I'm sure that didn't include all of them) why do we need more houses? What am I doing to make a difference? I pay my taxes in Iola, work in Iola and live in Iola, that gives me the right to say I don't like what some of the commissioners are doing. Get over it! Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

FavoredBabe 38 posts 16. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Apr-03-08, 05:59 AM (CST) my, my. either someone got up on the wrong side of the cage this morning or i seem to have hit her hot button. since i didnt say that i dont like this forum, i guess your command to stay off it doesnt apply (unless you are now a deputy sheriff and it is a lawful command). what am i doing to help people? i do volunteer work and although it isnt a lot i do donate money when i see someone in need. i buy groceries or will help with work that i am able to do. i get involved in life instead of whining that it isnt good enough or that the government isnt doing things the way i think they should. i also send e-mail and write letters to the actual people making the decisions to let them know my feelings instead of just griping about them on this forum. yes, you have a right to say what you dont like. and the fact that this is an open forum it gives me the right to share my disappointment with you if whining is all you have to offer. guess we'll both have to get over it. im not easily shaken up so it wont be too difficult for me to get over you. in fact i find you rather interesting. i learn a lot about human nature from reading your posts. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

jhawk 224 posts 19. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Apr-04-08, 09:25 PM (CST) So what happened to the new housing development by Russell Stover's? Why could they not build there? There are houses right across Patterson AVE. Money under the table or what? Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

timmy 1 posts 20. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Apr-06-08, 00:38 AM (CST) Not sure what happened there jay, I think they are looking for another place.. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Carter 46 posts 17. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Apr-03-08, 04:24 PM (CST) There are a lot more interesting people out there than me, I'm sure. And I didn't wake up on the wrong side of my cage, and you didn't hit my hot button. What really is kind of "funny" is that some people work for a living and don't have the time or energy to do all this volunteer workand donate money. I'm glad you have the time and the money to donate. The government chooses to "donate" for me. Like I said, I pay my taxes and I could probably feed/house and clothe someone else for what I pay in taxes. It's been done on a lot less. If someone has read the paper tonite, you will see what is happening with Jackie McIntyre and Bob S. about these people refurbishing houses that are already built. What a novel idea!! No, I'm not the deputy sheriff, are you the new shrink? Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

FavoredBabe 38 posts 18. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Apr-04-08, 05:51 AM (CST) LAST EDITED ON Apr-04-08 AT 05:57 AM (CST) i just love watching when your neck gets all red like that. by the way you dont have to be rich to give just a little and yes there are some volunteers who also work for a living. we may not be able to tell you the hottest shows on tv and we may not sleep as many hours as some but we still manage. im all done now and i will not post to this thread again so that you may have the last word which im sure is very important to you. after all you are a taxpayer and you have rights. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

FavoredBabe 38 posts 8. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Mar-25-08, 08:21 AM (CST) yes i get it. Life isnt always fair but there is no reason for me to think that just because someone was in a flood zone and lost their house that they should be guaranteed to come out of the flood with a brand new house. im not saying that they didnt have a terrible thing happen to them, but maybe they move into a house that is better than they had before. that doesnt mean they have to have new houses built especially for them and then have everyone complain because the new houses are too expensive. even if you are '65 getting ready to retire' i dont undestand why you should be entitled to a new house. most people in iola (not just flood victims) dont live in new houses. houses are expensive. thats life. we all find something we can afford and live there, without anyone feeling that it should be our right to be put into a new house. you say, "If they are for anyone in Iola, then wouldn't it be defeating the purpose of building new houses for the folks who didn't have insurance and couldn't afford it since they may be working a minimum wage job, don't have a credit history (because they can't afford anything) or have a rental history because housing is so outrageous around here that they have to be on welfare to begin with. It isn't easy living on a minimum wage income, trying to rent, buy a vehicle and pay for utilities....blah, blah, blah." okay if it is defeating the purpose to build houses for the people who cant afford them, and countrytime is upset because the houses ARENT being built for the flood victims, what are we supposed to do. nothing at all? that is probably what will happen anyway. its how things get done in iola. someone has a plan and then everyone else picks at it until the person with the plan gives up and goes to another town to do it. im sure Chaute will be glad to have the new houses that we snub our noses at. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

countrytime 114 posts 9. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Mar-25-08, 09:06 AM (CST) My point is that it is my understanding that the housing is only happening because people lost their homes to the flood. If that is the case, then is it reasonable to sell the houses to everyone else because the flood victims can't afford them and others have an income and credit that would allow them to buy a home under other circumstances? Is it a case of, to hell with the flood victims,I want a new house? As I said before, my understanding is that the housing is to benefit the flood victims. Really, would you want to suffer as they have so that you can have a chance at a home that you can buy in 15 years ,if you meet the criteria? It seems the flood victims are being the brunt of the anger against the city for not having affordable new housing for everyone. Read again, I never said I was angry because the houses aren't being built for the flood victims, my opinion is that it is highly unlikely that they are the ones who will end up in the houses when that is the reason they are being built. I'm pretty sure that if it was a do over, most would choose not to have the flood at all. What did you do for housing before the new housing because of the flood became a possibility? Was evereyone waiting for a disaster to be able to buy homes because the victims may not be able to afford them? That is absolutely ridiculous. Try to remember that they were and are the ones to suffer a terrible loss. Try to remember that the "affordable" housing is only a possibility because they are the ones who lost everything. They are not being given special treatment. Look closely at the fine print. And if the reason ,as it seems, for the housing is out of reach for the people who did lose everything, then it's best to forget the whole mess. I am at a loss as to how people can only think of themselves when there were so many who lost it all. I guess it would be a good thing to be thankful that they didn't lose everything that they worked for as opposed to being angry at someone who I'm sure would have preffered not to have lost theirs. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

countrytime 114 posts 4. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Mar-24-08, 06:41 PM (CST) Yes, it really doesn't seem that the people that lost their homes are going to benefit from that housing plan. I too, am wondering about who the homes are really for. Face it, the low to moderate income families are not going to get into these houses. Another great plan. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Carter 46 posts 10. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Mar-25-08, 05:35 PM (CST) I don't think anyone is angry at having new homes built. But, it just doesn't make sense to me...there are at least 50 homes on one website for sale in Iola ranging from $30,000 to at least $250,000. Maybe I didn't make myself clear: my theory is flood victims SHOULD have preference. The houses shouldn't be "given" away, Countrytime understood what I was saying. Low or moderate income families won't be able to afford the new houses being built. The cost: $57,000 for 15 years and then they have a chance to buy the house (for how much?) another $50,000? You have to figure in the utilities, insurance, and any other obligations that are included with buying a home. Most people in Iola can't afford what they've got. And I don't mean to sound snippy or anything else. People can't afford it and that's a fact! Besides, we have to pay for the new school and whatever else is going to be someone's bright idea for the day. I still say, if they're going to build a new school, turn the old schools into apartments, what would be wrong with that? Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

FavoredBabe 38 posts 5. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Mar-24-08, 09:31 PM (CST) LAST EDITED ON Mar-25-08 AT 06:07 AM (CST) im not sure what everyone is thinking. if a flood victim previously lived in a $25,000 house of course they will not get a new one for that price. that's life. whether they are a flood victim or not, some people will live in new houses and some won't. flood victims may not all qualify for a new house, but neither does the rest of the people in iola. but if new houses are built then those people who can afford new houses will buy them and when they do that leaves their less expensive houses available on the market for other people who can't afford to build new ones. everybody has the chance to benefit from new housing being built in iola. either way and no matter who buys them we need some more houses in town. they said more than a hundred houses were lost because of the flood. those people have to live somewhere and if we dont have houses they will go to another town and iola will just keep getting smaller and smaller and even fewer people will come here to live. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

countrytime 114 posts 6. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Mar-25-08, 07:15 AM (CST) I may be wrong, and I'm sure someone will let me know if I am. Wasn't the reason for the new housing because the flood victims need affordable housing? And if I read it right, they are to rent the houses for 15 years and then they can buy them. I am sure that other people need better housing,too. But, I think that the reason for the housing has been lost. I want a new house,too. But, I didn't lose everything I had and with no place to go.I wonder where the flood victims are living now. It has been almost a year since the flood. Most are probably already settled in other homes. Whether it be Iola or somewhere else. I think it does matter who gets the houses if the reason they are being built is for the flood victims. Maybe a poll was done and only 30 households would have the qualifying credit and income. I guess time will tell. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

FavoredBabe 38 posts 7. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Mar-25-08, 08:11 AM (CST) i dont know that it was ever stated that the houses are being built "for the flood victims" or for anyone else. my understanding is that housing is needed in order to replace houses lost due to the flood. i think they are supposed to do some houses for rent, and maybe people who cant afford to buy a house can rent them (somebody said rent will be under $400). there is supposed to be some houses for sale too i think. so hopefully there will be something for everybody. but i think the idea that just because someone was flooded means they will go from a $30,000 house to a $130,000 house is kind of silly, and i dont know if anyone can build $30,000 houses to replace exactly the same market houses that were lost. instead of criticizing the situation im just glad that someone is willing to build houses in iola no matter who moves into them. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

countrytime 114 posts 14. "RE: More housing for Iola!!" Mar-27-08, 08:53 AM (CST) So, is it okay for the "right" people to get the housing? Was there talk of new housing before the flood? And I do believe that there are plenty of houses for sale. Maybe some don't want them because they aren't new $130,000.00 homes and they deserve them more than someone whose house was only worth $30,000.00 . I am certain that no one said they were going to get these houses at a cut rate price. Only paying the price of the value of their old homes. And yes, there is a lot of negativity on here. Just as much from the ones who must be under the impression that they are the ones who should benefit . And since obviously their home was not in the flood, I wonder if they are wanting to get into one of those new,expensive houses and what the value of their home is. I do believe the green eyed monster is at work. C O M P A S S I O N is what is needed for the ones who lost their homes. They lost it all. You didn't,unless your home was lost in the flood,too. And that is not the impression that I get. Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

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